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- updated 19 Mar, 2011
We need your help to identify the following photos. We have posted as much information as we believe accurate. If you have information to add please quote the numbered photo.
When? Where? Who?
Mystery #309 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) written on the back: "18-914-806, Minto Armouries, Aug 28, 1971" Very interesting... girls in cadets, on the range 4 years before officially allowed. Any ideas?
Mystery #310 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) Written on back: "Kevin Klein July 23, 1977" Could be Prairie region rifle camp, note full-bore sportco rifle. I'm sure you shooters out there must have an idea.
Mystery #311 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) Written on back: "18-914-011 Darren Shewchuk from Invermay, Sask, July 23, 1977, cadet training" probably from same batch as above
Mystery #312 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) written on back: "18-914-015 Murray Lagacie July 23, 1977, cadet training" note large bore casings on burlap, range butts in background. There is a Cdt Murray Lagacie from Winnipeg, listed on the Vernon ACSTC nominal roll for 1974 and 1976 but not 1977, a good clue perhaps. Solved - I can solve that one and this might be really cool! That's my brother- Murray Lagace - He was a cadet with the 2701 PPCLI Cadet Corp, Winnipeg, Manitoba He followed me into cadets and spent one summer at the Cadet Rifle Coach in 1977 after I joined the Winnipeg Police in 1977. He would have been about 15 yrs old then. I believe he spent the summer in Winnipeg and it looks like that is at the St Charles Ranges, just west of Winnipeg. Thanks to Major Mike Lagace
Mystery #313 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) Written on back: "18-914-014, Aug 13 1955 PE VS-111 - Group cadets" Almost certainly all prarire based cadets at Banff National Army Cadet Camp. Interesting hat badges of the three cadets in top row, detail photo below.
Mystery #313, possibly Prince Albert & Battleford Volunteers? the other two small ones could be Saskatoon Light Infantry. Partially solved - The cap badge far left is Prince Albert and Battleford Volunteers, the next two are Saskatoon Light Infantry. Both regiments were disbanded in 1955 and replaced by the newly-created First and Second Battalions (respectively) of the North Saskatchewan Regiment. Of note is that the first SLI cadet has a shaped red felt flash behind his cap badge whereas the cadet from the same unit next to him does not. That dissimilarity is apparent throughout the photo -- some with a flash, others not -- as the flashes were removed from the cadet orders of dress that year but was actioned only sporadically over the next two years. I was issued a red flash when I joined the SLI/2N Sask R cadet corps jn 1956 but never wore it. Given that the cadets are still wearing khaki berets, this picture was taken no later than 1957 as we adopted coloured berets in 1958. The Tropical Worsted and Gold Stars designate these as Master Cadets, either at Banff or on the cross-country tour. Thanks to Al Ditter
Mystery #314 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) Written on back: "MGen K.J. Thorneycroft inspecting cadets June 10, 1979" most certainly Winnipeg area.
Mystery #315 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) Written on back :18-355-1010, Aug 9 1952, Parts IV No.7 Wpg Trib" Very interesting, possibly Shilo or Dundurn? Certainly trades training common of the time.
Mystery #316 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) written on back: "18-355-1011, Aug 14 1952, Dr Rollit ex al" probably not cadets, but... note Canadian officer at far left with NATO Div patch (rifle brigade) from West Germany, detail below. With the date and close order number was it also shot at the same location as the cadets previous?
Mystery #316 - 27th Infantry Brigade, Rifle Regt component
Mystery #317 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) Written on back: "RC Army Cadet Camp, July 24, 1953, Twins" all prairie region cadets, 20th Sask Dragoons, Prince Alberta & Battleford Volunteers, Fort Garry Horse. So what we have here is three sets of twins at a cadet camp in 1953. Clear Lake or Dundurn. Note middle cadets "St. Thomas...." ...ege" There was a 1999 St.Thomas College Cadet Corps in Battleford Sask, So that answers that clue
Mystery #318 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) Written on back: "18-354-020, Cadet Instructor Robert Tait shows C/Cpl Stephen Habington how to recognize a major by his stripes, army cadets, Sept 1963" More than likely 407 QOCH Cadets.
Mystery #319 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) Written on back: "July 17, 1979 Cdt David Holmberg". no other clues...
Mystery #320 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) Written on back: "July 1963, Army Cadets Parachute training" Now this photo is intriguing! Cadet Parachute training in 1963 predates the earliest known Army Cadet Parachute course first held as an experiment in 1967 in Rivers, Manitoba. This could be Rivers (CJATC) with the old mock tower, the barracks in the background should be a good clue as well. In any case, this is a very interesting mystery photo that I hope we can solve. Perhaps some of the early 1970s Airborne guys from Edmonton may be able to help. Definitely requires more research! Partially solved I do not have any specific in on this photo. However, I attended Clear Lake Cadet Camp in 1961 as a cdt cpl. While there, the whole camp was taken to Rivers for a briefing and tour. This included a demo on the mock tower after which we were given a chance to go off it if we wished. I went off it and was scared to death. In 1966, I was an O/Cdt on 1st phase COTC at Shilo and we were taken on a similar tour to Rivers. I also went off the same tower then, with the same reaction. I finally qualified as a jumper at Edmonton in 1984!!! Thanks to Ian Smith -
Partially solved - this photo is definitely the mock tower at Rivers. Your remarks are not quite correct. Rivers, Manitoba was the summer camp for #745 R.C.A.S.C.C. a cadet corps from Portage la Prairie, Manitoba and sponsored by airborne units. i believe the first camp was 1950 and I attended the camp in l951 and l952. we spent time at rivers taking basics on jumping (hanging from risers and changing directions for proper landings. we also were instructed in the loading of equipment on boxcars (planes) one of our instructors was a man (i believe last name Ross) who took his raining at Fort Benning due to lack of Canadian facilities. he was with the first airborne division and his red beret badge was a parachute. as a jumper he of course wore the wings on his lapel. our cadet corps also had the red beret and the parachute badge. i believe we spent the first two weeks at rivers (torture rack and all) then relocated to Shilo where we were instructed in chute packing and the high tower (just a ride in the bucket up and down. the last week we returned to rivers and the mock tower. i can easily guess that i went off that thing at least ten times. a picture of me was snapped when i was out the door and some of us guys used this picture on a card to send out for Xmas cards. i was the first cadet (i was staff Sgt.) to be invited to take a back flip on one rise from the mock. boy i was happy. got all hooked up and stood in the doorway (probably ten minutes) and i choked. no jam. part of the reason for this email is to correct the statement that you made about 1963. although we did all this in the early fifties it was not an actual course although if we went through it we were allowed to wear clipped wings on our jackets. that was a wonderful experience. by the way our commander of the cadets was a gentleman named Wilf Donaldson who was RSM of the Lake Superior Regiment I believe) I did write a story about this and forwarded it to some magazine in the fifties, but never heard anything back. I hope this gives you some good info. Eric Jorgensen
Mystery #321 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) Written on back: "18-914-011, Aug 26 1952, 3 col ssu" Not sure, trades training, but the head dress looks like it could be COTC for the fellow on the right with the white insert on his wedge, the one on the left may have a red insert on his wedge, denoting cadets. Detail photo below of serviceable tag on oil spigot.
Mystery #322 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) no text on back. Looks to be Clear Lake Cadet Camp early in 1950s. Detail photo below of hat badges fixed to pith helmets
Mystery #322 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) no text on back. Almost certainly Clear Lake Cadet Camp. All prairie cadets, note hat badges. Of interest note possible officer at far left, detail photo below, look at rank epaulet, stripes. Interesting.
Mystery #323 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) no text on back. Clear Lake, obviously posed.
Mystery #324 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) no text on back. Clear Lake.
Mystery #325 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) Written on on back: "18-914-007 Minto Armouries Aug 28, 1971" , similar to photo #309
Mystery #326 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) Written on on back: "18-354-13, RC Army Cadets, Aug 1, 1953", familiarization training on a Sherman tank, with no barrel. Dundurn? Shilo? Solved Not that mysterious, really. It's a Sherman with the turret and gun reversed for travel, likely at Dundurn. In 1958 the cadets were taken out to the training area and given a firepower demonstration, likely by the Fort Gary Horse. We were astounded at the lethality of the Sherman gunners as they struck a derelict vehicle on a hillside a mile or so distant and it went up in a blaze of flame and smoke. We didn't learn until later that the vehicle had been reinforced with a 55-gallon drum of waste oil and gasoline so when the superheated round hit it, the effect would be spectacular. Still, their accuracy was to be applauded. Thank you to Al Ditter
Mystery #327 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) Written on on back: "18-354-15 RC Army Cadets, Aug 1, 1953" Interesting but few clues. Must be shot same place as Mystery #326
Mystery #328 (courtesy Maj Wally Statz) Written on on back: "18-354-14 RC Army Cadets, Aug 1 1953" another one in the series. More than likely Dundurn.
Mystery #329 (courtesy LCdr Neil Martin) Written on back: "1952-53, Yarmouth Girl cadets" Not sure if its air, sea or army cadets. Not a lot of details, good luck!